As children, they escaped the virus through revolutions in medication. But today, they face an old foe again. Renowned HIV scientist Salim Abdool Karim sits down with Mia Malan to explain why their story is the story of Africa’s HIV epidemic.

Music credit: Driven To Success – Scott Holmes

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Mia Malan is the founder and editor-in-chief of Bhekisisa. She has worked in newsrooms in Johannesburg, Nairobi and Washington, DC, winning more than 30 awards for her radio, print and television work.

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Danny Booysen is a freelance audio technical producer and has over 30 years of experience in the broadcast industry.

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Dylan Bush is Bhekisisa's production and multimedia manager.